We have a large family (9) with 1 large tent (10*20), 1 screen room (10*10) and a couple 2 man tents. We recently went to GSMNP and saw awesome campsite set ups with tarps set up to cover entire sites, attached to trees. Obviously, the "right" site will fit certain tarps but I'm trying to get the tapes first to suite then look for the perfect sites. Any opinions on the pros and cons of sizes and how many we should get? Debating between a couple 20*40, 30*30, or several 20*20. Tia
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We once camped during a very rainy weekend and people kept showing up with tarps... eventually we had a large campfire totally surrounded with vehicle and camps covered by tarps (you could walk all the way around the fire and not get wet...It was even colorful; blue, orange green, camo etc. (wish that I had a pic but it was before digital cameras).
I once made a "community center" based on a single 10x20 footer surrounded by 3 9x10 (or thereabouts) then someone invented popup canopies which have largely replaced the need for tarps (except as sidewalls in our camps.
We normally just carry a couple of small tarps the biggest being 10 x 15 and at least 100 feet of paracord to rig them (if needed).2006 Jeep Rubicon, TJ; 4.11 gears, 31" tires, 4:1 transfer case, lockers in both axles
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Ground tents work best for me, so far.
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For rain protection, I always try to get a tarp that will hang over 4 or 5 feet on the sides and back and 8 to 10 feet in front of the tent. However, that comes with a warning. The larger the tarp, the harder it is to keep it safe in wind and rain. I recommend using a bungee cord on every tie down that you use and making sure there's enough of a slope throughout the setup so rain doesn't collect anywhere.
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Quality tents don't get any better with tarps draped over them, but for additional weather protection for your group, consider a US surplus parachute with the center strung up over a high branch once tied to a rock and thrown. Just don't try it here out west, public campsites forbid the attachment of ANYTHING to a tree or bush and it will be removed along with a stern warning once observed. Only private campgrounds and Indian reservations allow that these days.“People have such a love for the truth that when they happen to love something else, they want it to be the truth; and because they do not wish to be proven wrong, they refuse to be shown their mistake. And so, they end up hating the truth for the sake of the object which they have come to love instead of the truth.”
―Augustine of Hippo, Fifth Century A.D.
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Originally posted by tplife View PostQuality tents don't get any better with tarps draped over them...
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Originally posted by MacGyver View PostNo, they don't get any better, but a tarp also helps keep a tent from getting any worse. It gives added protection from UV degradation, and keeps bird droppings, tree sap and other junk from soiling the tent. This is one of the reasons why none of my tents appear to age - even the ones that are 20+ years old.
Also by keeping the sun off your tent and on the tarp, it keeps your tent cooler. I use a 12x12 Kelty Noah to make a bigger awning in front of my tent, to keep from getting sunburned.Nights camped in 2019: 24
Nights camped in 2018: 24
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Originally posted by MacGyver View PostNo, they don't get any better, but a tarp also helps keep a tent from getting any worse. It gives added protection from UV degradation, and keeps bird droppings, tree sap and other junk from soiling the tent. This is one of the reasons why none of my tents appear to age - even the ones that are 20+ years old.
Originally posted by 05Kingquad700 View PostAlso by keeping the sun off your tent and on the tarp, it keeps your tent cooler. I use a 12x12 Kelty Noah to make a bigger awning in front of my tent, to keep from getting sunburned.
I use one over my tent (3-4 man). In addition to the reasons above: I also use Noah 12 tarps to provide me with dry "staging" areas for gear and tent set-up and take-down. The 12 is good for 4 campers (that size easily covers a picnic table or a 3-4 person sized tent with some decent overhang). They also have a 16x16 size. I really like using tarps as they keep me outside generally regardless of weather (I head to the tent if it's sideways rain-lol). My tarps are the first thing up and the last thing down when I'm camping.
My opinion? --- Using several smaller tarps instead of one large one gives you better campsite set-up flexibility and coverage placement (one over the tent or used as a tent's awning and perhaps another over by the cooking/campfire/table/sitting/etc area).2020: 7 nights 2019: 5 nights 2018: 20 nights 2017: 19 nights 2016: 20 nights
Spring->Fall: Marmots: Limestone 6P and 4P, Stormlight 3P, Tungsten 3P; SlumberJack Trail Tent 6P, BA Yahmonite 5P
Fall->Spring: Cabelas Instinct Alaskan Guide 8P, Field & Stream Cloudpeak 4P, Eastern Mountain Products Torrent 3P
Every season: Kelty Noah's Tarps- 20, 16, 12; REI Camp Tarp 16; BA Three Forks Shelter
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Yes, I seem to take a couple different sizes. Makes it nice if it rains, listening to the sound of rain on a tarp. Good times with friends hanging out under a tarp. I usually take a 10x10, or a 10x20. My 12x12 usually makes the trip to. I want to pick up a 9x9 noah this winter as well.Nights camped in 2019: 24
Nights camped in 2018: 24
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All this tarp talk brings back a laughable memory. I've been camping with the same guys now since the early 80's and, being what I'd say are typical guys, we pick on each other constantly for any reason we can find. All in good fun, but it's a tradition that we just don't let up. Anyway, back before I'd found an easy way to hang a large tarp so it wouldn't collapse in the wind or rain, it would take me more than an hour to make it work. My friends would sit back and laugh as I went back and forth making adjustments. Long story short, the laughing came to a quick halt the first time we got hit with a massive thunderstorm and everyone brought their chairs under "The Big Top" to ride out the storm. From then on, if anyone started to say anything about it, I just reminded them that the next storm would cost them $10 for a dry seat. No more laughing - especially now that I can usually put a huge 18 x 24 up in about 30 minutes or less.
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This may seem peculiar, but it never occurred to me until my last trip out that I could use my truck's camper shell to SLEEP in! It was always just a dry place to store gear (guitar, nets, seines, etc.). I found that if I pitch a small tarp (6x8 or so) off the back end of the truck I can stay perfectly comfortable in any kind of weather and not have to mess with pitching a tent. Who knew?2018: Any way the wind blows; doesn't really matter to me....Too Meee....
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Thank you all for the insight. Hadn't thought about having to refold the tarps. A parachute is a really interesting idea as well. Looks like we will mess around with some trial and error. In Fl, we were nt allowed to tie to trees but now that Im in TN, the rules have changed and I will learn a new way. I appreciate all the help =)
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