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    Hello Fellow Tent Campers!

    I recently had an opportunity to pick up the Marmot Stormlight 3P tent at a great price and add it to my ever growing collection of tents. Yea...I like different tent styles and "testing" them out, so this one made the grade and I nabbed it. I thought I would share some of the specs, a few unique features that peaked my original interest, and after using it this past weekend, my overall thoughts so far.

    First off...the Stormlight 3P has been discontinued by Marmot, but is still available online at a few retailers. I was able to locate it at a clearance price and then doubled down with an additional 20% off. In total, the price was almost 50% off original retail. Marmot has replaced the Stormlight 3P with a "new" model called the Fuse 3P...and aside from thinner denier fabrics, lower waterproof ratings on the fly, and the use of DAC NFL aluminum 9.3 mm poles on the Fuse, these two tents are essentially the same. The Fuse, with it's thinner denier fabrics, waterproofing coatings, and the use of DAC NFL poles (rather than the DAC Pressfit 9.0 mm poles on the Stormlight), does come in with a weight savings of 13 oz less than the Stormlight and it does pack down into a smaller package. I assume Marmot did this model revision to try to make the tent more appealing to the backpacking crowd.

    Some specs comparing the Stormlight and the Fuse for those of you that enjoy them:

    STORMLIGHT 3P
    Capacity: 3
    Min Wt: 5 lbs. 13 oz.
    Pkg Wt: 6 lbs. 5 oz.
    Dimensions: 7'4"x5'7"
    Area (Sq. Ft.): 41+ 10 Vest + 5.5 Vest
    Int Height: 3'8"
    Pack Size: 27.5"x8"
    No. of Poles: 3
    Pole Size: 9mm
    Pole Material: DAC PressFit aluminum
    No. of Doors: 2
    Hooded Fly: 2 vents
    Floor Material: 150D Oxford Nylon 3000mm coating
    Fly Material: 75D Polyester 2000mm coating
    Wall Material: 40D Polyester No-see-um mesh
    Roof Material: 40D Polyester No-see-um mesh
    Netting: 40D Polyester No-see-um mesh
    2 mesh pockets inside for storage and 5 loops for hanging a gear loft (not included)
    The footprint for the Stormlight is no longer available - I purchased the Fuse footprint which is an exact match to the Stormlight and fit perfectly (although the Fuse footprint is a 70 denier nylon).


    FUSE 3P
    Capacity: 3
    Min Wt: 5lbs. 1oz.
    Pkg Wt: 5lbs. 8oz.
    Dimensions: 7'4" x 5'7"
    Area (Sq. Ft.): 41 + 10 (vest) + 5.1 (vest)
    Int Height: 3'8"
    Pack Size: 22" x 8"
    Pole Size: 9.3mm
    Pole Material: Aluminum DAC NFL
    No. of Doors: 2
    Hooded Fly: 2 vents
    Floor Material: 70D Nylon PU 3000mm coating
    Fly Material: 50D Solution Dyed Polyester Taffeta 1500mm coating
    Wall Material: 1.9 oz. 68D Polyester Taffeta 1800 mm coating
    Roof Material: 15D No-See-Um Mesh
    Netting: 15D No-See-Um Mesh

    Both of these tents have several unique features that I was curious about and led to my decision to grab the Stormlight:
    1. Solution Dyed Fabric in the Fly - This means that rather than weaving the polyester threads and then dipping the large fabric sheet/fly into the color solution...the Stormlight and Fuse first have each individual polyester thread dipped into the color solution and then the threads are woven to create the fly fabric. Marmot indicates that this increases the UV protection of the polyester fly (extending it's life against the harmful rays of the sun) and this method also creates a quieter fabric.

    2. Sonic Welded Seams in the Fly - None of the "seams" in the fly have needle holes. There is no sewing. Each area where the fly's fabric must be mated together has been sonically welded. This includes the fly vents. There are literally no needle holes anywhere on the fly nor seam tape on the underside (there is no need). No holes, so zero chance of rain penetration through the "seams". This makes the fly stronger and extends it's life over time. This was a feature that I really was interested in and thought could be of benefit.

    3. Marmot's Inverted Head and Foot box - The main ridge pole running the length of the tent extends beyond the end of the head and foot area. That pole then connects to the head and foot fabric, pulling it out and up at an angle. This increases the livability and space inside the tent. Instead of the normal upward inward sloping angle of fabric in many tents, the Stormlight/Fuse fabric at the foot and head angles out and away from the interior, creating a more spacious inside.

    Potential Negatives to the Stormlight and Fuse: These tents use 3 poles in total (one long ridge pole-with a brow pole attached via hub, and two individual end poles which connect also via a hub and clasp system). There is potential that the hubs could break as they are made of a hard plastic. Although I did not have any problems during the couple of set-ups I did, the potential is there if one does not use caution during set-up or takedown. On the flip side, the hubs seem sturdy and the clasping system on the end poles works with a solid "click" precision. In the event of a broken hub in the field, the design does allow for a simple lashing to continue the trip. Marmot's lifetime warranty on the tent allows for easy replacement when time allows.

    A few pics to show the features I described above and an overall photo of the tent. I used it last weekend during a Boy Scout campout at Indiana's Shakamak State Park.

    Overall photo of the Marmot Stormlight with the rain fly on:



    A close up showing the fly vent and the sonic welded seams:



    A pic of the tent without the fly to show the overall pole structure. Note the ridgepole going out past the ends of the tent creating the inverted foot and head feature:



    Lastly, a pic of one of the end hubs showing how the ridgepole connects and is secured to the end poles:



    Overall thoughts and impressions: The Stormlight, with it's clip system goes up fast-less than 5 minutes, including staking. The thing..once staked and guyed out, is rock solid---it literally has very little movement as all poles are tied together. The ventilation and breathability on this tent is outstanding-it's mostly mesh upper and the inverted foot/head and 2 fly vents provide great air flow-both mornings I used it, the only condensation I noted was on the outside of the tent around the fly vents-zero inside. The inverted foot and head design does add to the interior dimensional "feel" of the tent...esp when lying down...it just makes it seem larger inside. I only experienced a brief shower one morning on my campout, so I cannot yet make any comment regarding the weather worthiness of the tent-but I assume it will be excellent during stronger storms. The 150 Oxford Nylon floor is thick and durable and abrasion resistant.

    There are very few reviews online of the Stormlight 3P - I'm assuming that Marmot did not sell many of these tents. Why? Perhaps it is the weight and size - a bit heavy for backpacking and 3P tents fall into a strange category (too small for typical car campers and too large/heavy for backpackers). I picked it up due to it's low clearance sale price and the robust waterproof ratings and tough/thick fabric deniers. Also, the unique features available in this model proved too irresistible for a tent fanatic like me. In addition, my son has taken over the Marmot Tungsten 3P that I picked up earlier this spring as his "personal" tent.

    Overall, if you are looking for a spacious tent for 2 people or a palace for one (forget the 3 person designation unless you're all real friendly), you might want to check out the Stormlight before they're gone. It is an extremely sturdy, well water-proofed 2 person tent option. The lifetime warranty from Marmot provides peace of mind.

    Thanks for reading this long review. lol. If you have any questions on either the Stormlight or the Fuse, I'd be happy to answer what I can.

    Take care everyone...Happy Camping to you all!

    Brian - a65hoosier
    2020: 7 nights 2019: 5 nights 2018: 20 nights 2017: 19 nights 2016: 20 nights
    Spring->Fall: Marmots: Limestone 6P and 4P, Stormlight 3P, Tungsten 3P; SlumberJack Trail Tent 6P, BA Yahmonite 5P
    Fall->Spring: Cabelas Instinct Alaskan Guide 8P, Field & Stream Cloudpeak 4P, Eastern Mountain Products Torrent 3P
    Every season: Kelty Noah's Tarps- 20, 16, 12; REI Camp Tarp 16; BA Three Forks Shelter

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    Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

    I would be interested in knowing how well it stands up to rain, wind, etc....And how much did you get it for? I don't spend a LOT of time on mfr. specs b/c they're usually full are marketspeak and distortions. Specs are a good starting point, but only that...
    2018: Any way the wind blows; doesn't really matter to me....Too Meee....

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      Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

      Here's some helpful info on BPL:

      https://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi...07.26#forumtop
      2018: Any way the wind blows; doesn't really matter to me....Too Meee....

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        Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

        Nice review and comparison (as usual).

        I was in REI last year and heard a woman talking about some pole hubs she had ordered. Seems she was having to replace cracked hubs often enough that she called the manufacturer and had them send her a small bag of 'em. I don't know if she just wasn't taking care when setting up the poles or if they're just a natural weak point, but I would recommend anyone with a hubbed tent to look into doing what she did - get some spares.

        I haven't tested the theory yet, but I'm reasonably sure broken hubs can be temporarily fixed with a couple versions of epoxy putty. That's one of the reasons I added some to my tool kit. Not exactly a backpacking thing for ounce counters, but nice to have in the truck.

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          Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

          Originally posted by Irate Mormon View Post
          I would be interested in knowing how well it stands up to rain, wind, etc....And how much did you get it for? I don't spend a LOT of time on mfr. specs b/c they're usually full are marketspeak and distortions. Specs are a good starting point, but only that...
          MSRP on the Stormlight was $349. I got it for almost a Jackson under $200.

          Yea...I keep wishing for a real nasty storm to hit me while camping. I seriously have not had the "luck" of a good storm in the past two years. Heavy rain/lightening and some decent wind yes...but not one of those scary storms that can flatten a campground and take down trees. The last one I was in like that was back in 2013. I'll update the thread as I have 7 more nights so far planned yet this year.

          Totally agree on specs. I personally use specs mainly for dimensions (length, width, height, vestibule size, pack size), fabric type and denier, pole type/diameter/number, and other features. Not sure how one would be able to verify waterproof mm ratings or overall liveability/ease of set-up. In addition, some of the dimensional measurements of certain mfgrs don't hold up when you measure them yourself. But outside of an independent review, the specs are a good tool to begin the comparison process.

          FYI...the link you provided is not working.
          2020: 7 nights 2019: 5 nights 2018: 20 nights 2017: 19 nights 2016: 20 nights
          Spring->Fall: Marmots: Limestone 6P and 4P, Stormlight 3P, Tungsten 3P; SlumberJack Trail Tent 6P, BA Yahmonite 5P
          Fall->Spring: Cabelas Instinct Alaskan Guide 8P, Field & Stream Cloudpeak 4P, Eastern Mountain Products Torrent 3P
          Every season: Kelty Noah's Tarps- 20, 16, 12; REI Camp Tarp 16; BA Three Forks Shelter

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            Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

            Originally posted by MacGyver View Post
            Nice review and comparison (as usual).

            I was in REI last year and heard a woman talking about some pole hubs she had ordered. Seems she was having to replace cracked hubs often enough that she called the manufacturer and had them send her a small bag of 'em. I don't know if she just wasn't taking care when setting up the poles or if they're just a natural weak point, but I would recommend anyone with a hubbed tent to look into doing what she did - get some spares.

            I haven't tested the theory yet, but I'm reasonably sure broken hubs can be temporarily fixed with a couple versions of epoxy putty. That's one of the reasons I added some to my tool kit. Not exactly a backpacking thing for ounce counters, but nice to have in the truck.
            lol Mac. Ya know, I thought about the 3 hubs on this tent before I bought it based on some of our conversations we've had here about them. I thought about it again when I typed up this review (that's why I brought it up)...oh Lordy..MacGyver's gonna hit me on the hubs. lololol-I know you're not a real big hub fan. I might take a look into getting some extra hubs "just in case"(can't hurt) - but I'm pretty gentle with my gear ("if you're having to force something..something's not right" is my motto). But accidents happen.

            Never thought about epoxy (you are the MacGyver!). hmmm....that is an idea for car camping. I could throw some in my "fix-it" tool bag.
            2020: 7 nights 2019: 5 nights 2018: 20 nights 2017: 19 nights 2016: 20 nights
            Spring->Fall: Marmots: Limestone 6P and 4P, Stormlight 3P, Tungsten 3P; SlumberJack Trail Tent 6P, BA Yahmonite 5P
            Fall->Spring: Cabelas Instinct Alaskan Guide 8P, Field & Stream Cloudpeak 4P, Eastern Mountain Products Torrent 3P
            Every season: Kelty Noah's Tarps- 20, 16, 12; REI Camp Tarp 16; BA Three Forks Shelter

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              Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

              Don't sweat the hub-bub, chum! I own enough Marmot Mountain gear to trade for a used car: tents, outerwear, and a few of their top-shelf sleeping bags. They are, IMHO without flaw in every respect, and sport generous lifetime warranties to back up their quality gear.
              “People have such a love for the truth that when they happen to love something else, they want it to be the truth; and because they do not wish to be proven wrong, they refuse to be shown their mistake. And so, they end up hating the truth for the sake of the object which they have come to love instead of the truth.”
              ―Augustine of Hippo, Fifth Century A.D.

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                Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

                Originally posted by a65hoosier View Post
                oh Lordy..MacGyver's gonna hit me on the hubs.
                Nah - Just a tap on the shoulder

                Originally posted by a65hoosier View Post
                Never thought about epoxy (you are the MacGyver!). hmmm....that is an idea for car camping. I could throw some in my "fix-it" tool bag.
                Just about any decent hardware store sells sticks of epoxy putty in various formulations. They come in convenient reclosable tubes. Cut off what you need, store the rest. Comes in handy for any number of things. It certainly saved the day when my blind-as-a-bat friend broke his glasses. I even molded some into a rain guard for one of my LED lights.

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                  Re: Review of the Marmot Stormlight 3P

                  [QUOTE=a65hoosier;39963]MSRP on the Stormlight was $349. I got it for almost a Jackson under $200.

                  Yea...I keep wishing for a real nasty storm to hit me while camping. I seriously have not had the "luck" of a good storm in the past two years. Heavy rain/lightening and some decent wind yes...but not one of those scary storms that can flatten a campground and take down trees. The last one I was in like that was back in 2013. I'll update the thread as I have 7 more nights so far planned yet this year.

                  Totally agree on specs. I personally use specs mainly for dimensions (length, width, height, vestibule size, pack size), fabric type and denier, pole type/diameter/number, and other features. Not sure how one would be able to verify waterproof mm ratings or overall liveability/ease of set

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